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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 19, 2009 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

Bruce Springsteen? Not aware of any childhood tragedies....other than having to grow up in NJ.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 19, 2009 9:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

let us not forget Peter Gabriel - incredible artist

certainly no drugs, but not entirely sure regarding childhood tragedies.

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Oct 19, 2009 9:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

i believe frank zappa and ted nugent didnt ever use.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1uBcMfBl8

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 19, 2009 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

Zappa is a rare exception to all rules and Nugent great? Not by ANY standard I can think of

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 19, 2009 3:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

American Cattle Association think so...

"Eat Meat!"

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 19, 2009 9:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

I said not that many. I should have never have made a blanket statement because it's now come back to haunt me. I should have stated that I personally prefer some level of dysfunction in my music. And I never said you had to do drugs to be good, I just see a pattern of some people's creativity getting boring and becoming over produced.

As for Gabriel - except for a few tunes he bores the crap out of me.Doesn't mean he's not good of course but he does pretty much nothing for me.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 19, 2009 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

dont get me wrong - i basically agree with you both in music (as well as in literature.) the list of dysfunctional, addicted, pained great artists in poetry (and literature in general) far outweighs those who are physically, mentally, and spiritually sober.

no arguement from me that the experience of pain (of almost any variety) makes phenomenal art.

(and, yeah, Gabriel is definitely an acquired taste and not for everyone)

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 20, 2009 7:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

re: Peter Gabriel---au contraire, my hairy friend.

Gabriel was an absolute acid fiend in the late 60's/early 70's.

Find some Youtube videos of the "Nursery Cryme" years when he dressed up like a giant ragweed on stage and the like. In fact, "Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" (the band's greatest album) tells the story of an acid trip from soup to (literally) nuts.

He grew up and cleaned up once he left the band in 1975 and he never delved into heroin and stuff like Jerry, but drugs were definitely a part of his lifestyle in the early days.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 20, 2009 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

i could be wrong - but according to him , he was not

mistaken, i could be

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 20, 2009 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

"mistaken, i could be"

Thank you Jedi master. Now is that light saber in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 20, 2009 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

i'll never tell ;)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 20, 2009 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

Tell?!?

You rang?

Or is that just a flash back? (get it? light saber...flash...har...oh jeezz...pathetic).

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 20, 2009 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

that was a painful one WT - very very painful

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 20, 2009 8:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

Maybe it was Collins. That would explain Sessudio ;-)

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Oct 20, 2009 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

I know what I like ----> Carpet Crawlers

You gotta get in to get out !

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Oct 20, 2009 7:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

Always assumed Gabriel was an acidhead. Suppers Ready.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 19, 2009 9:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

Yep. Although you gotta think there were some drugs early on. How else can you explain some of the ridiculous costumes and stories, not to mention that 2 inch part he put in his hair in the early '70s??

One of my favorite concert experiences. Saw him 4 times in the early/mid '80s.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 19, 2009 9:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry Poll

saw him a couple of times early 80's also - incredible concerts. supposedly he only tried hash once, didnt like it,and never touched any drugs again. just a very creative, artsy soul.

his early solo work is pure poetry and rivals some of the greatest lyricists out there.

(although after the Arquette divorce, he traveled down the Sylvia Plath/Robert Lowell road of depressing autobiographical confessional lyricism which imho weakened his music)

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